I’m more in the ‘developer’ side of the house, and often have mixed feelings about dealing with the ‘other half’. I’m often handed a photoshop file which is literally impossible to recreate *exactly*. And it’s still impossible to recreate sanely while addressing A) memory/size/speed, B) browser compatibility and C) “web standards”. I quoted the web standards thing because there’s people that focus solely on that, and I don’t quite buy in to all that hype. I’ll use tables for layout when it fits the needs of the project. Perhaps when CSS3 is widely adopted in a few more years there’ll be even fewer uses for tables as a layout tool, but right now they still have a place in some situations.

The Django installer requires the user have superuser abilities, and however Grails can be installed by most any user. Furthermore, I am curious how the install process of both systems is handled on a Windows machine, as the prerequisite languages (Python and Java) are not installed by default.